Posts by Anders Andersen

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May 16, 2016 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS IN BRITAIN Re: Donations to the Worldwide Work Using jw.org

by wifibandit in

may 16, 2016 to all congregations in britain re: donations to the worldwide work using jw.org.

adding it to the list.... may 2015 broadcast.

jehovah will care for our needs.

Anders Andersen

@Steve,

Yeah that idea popped up here as well.

Make regular donations of the lowest amount, reveal bits of ttatt in the description fields....wake up the money men...lol

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What were you never going to do in "This system" But did it?

by karter in

jw
friends

finish school.. finish my apprenticeship (why are you doing that brother karter you will never finish it in this system).. buy a house.. pay the house off.. karter..

Anders Andersen

Too fresh out but some things on my list of new possibilities:

Parachute jump
Get a tattoo
Travel the world / emigrate
Have a time consuming hobby
Do time consuming home maintenance and like it
Enjoy earning money
Donate to real charities
Volunteer for real charities
Like all people without prejudices
...

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Demon possesion, bunch of crap or?

by raven in

i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.

anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?

i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?

Anders Andersen

If spirits are able to mess with electronics, lighting, hide stuff or uncover long lost items, make sounds, influence dreams, etc...

Why can't they just grab a pencil a write on a piece of paper 'hey its me I miss you guys'.

Or knock Morse code. Send an email.

To me it seems that all the signs attributed to souls and spirits are just as clear as answers to prayer: you might get some, or not. You never know for sure. And it's all complete up to yourself to come up with an interpretation. It's always ambiguous at best. Without your own wishful thinking the events would never have picked up as a message from God/spirits.

But maybe I'm too skeptical...

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May 16, 2016 TO ALL CONGREGATIONS IN BRITAIN Re: Donations to the Worldwide Work Using jw.org

by wifibandit in

may 16, 2016 to all congregations in britain re: donations to the worldwide work using jw.org.

adding it to the list.... may 2015 broadcast.

jehovah will care for our needs.

Anders Andersen

Wtf now we can create an account and setup automatic recurring donations?

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Demon possesion, bunch of crap or?

by raven in

i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.

anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?

i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?

Anders Andersen

Inanimate objects are safe.

Just don't keep snakes or donkeys as pets. Or pigs. Or bearded people. Or blind people. Cripple. Epileptic. Mute. Deaf. They're all possessed. Or at least they could be. Better safe than sorry...

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Dutch TV crew kicked out of Circuit Assembly

by Anders Andersen in

in the netherlands, a tv crew for powned (a website/tv station known for their non-conventional approach and love for controversy) visited a circuit assembly.

the video starts with them asking 'is everyone welcome here, even criminals, bikers, gays?

', and the answer is of course yes.. then the clip focuses on asking dubs questions about gays and the caleb video.. in the end the crew is asked to stop filming and leave.

Anders Andersen

@menrov,

Yeah, they weren't exactly challenging. Probably because they had some instructions from the press info desk, and because they are accompanied by a press desk brother at all time.
And even without the not-so-challenging question they were disturbing enough.

Ah well...I never like it either when a TV crew roamed the convention. What the h would I say to them? It's hard to defend the undefendable...

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Dutch TV crew kicked out of Circuit Assembly

by Anders Andersen in

in the netherlands, a tv crew for powned (a website/tv station known for their non-conventional approach and love for controversy) visited a circuit assembly.

the video starts with them asking 'is everyone welcome here, even criminals, bikers, gays?

', and the answer is of course yes.. then the clip focuses on asking dubs questions about gays and the caleb video.. in the end the crew is asked to stop filming and leave.

Anders Andersen

Transcript/translation of the video:
Jehovas react to anti-gay video
"EVERYONE IS WELCOME"

P = Presenter
Br = Brother
Sr = Sister

P: Today a large JW convention is taking place in Assen, and everyone is welcome there.

Music:Jesus saves, Jesus saves, all people pay attention!Jesus saves, Jesus saves, just by prayer..

Br = Bethel heavy, most likely press information desk.

P: So everyone is welcome here?
Br: Yeah, no problem.
P: And that also includes Muslims, criminals, people from a motorcycle club...they are all allowed to take a look here?
Br: In theory everyone is cordially invited.
P: What about gays?Br: We have sympathy for all kinds of people, including gays. What we do have problems with are the acts that some people do.
---
Br: Of course we've been in the news with our latest video, there was quite some fuss about it...
P: That wasn't really a nice video, wasn't it?
[video snippet]
---
Sr: That isn't what God intended.
---
Br: Because you want to give yourself to God, you can restrain yourself.
[video snippet]
---
Br: It seems to be a possibility that someone can do everything within his power to overcome these feelings.
---
P: Homosexuality is not really how it should be?
Br: Eh...sexuality, man with man, no. That's what I get from the Bible...
P: And woman with woman?
Br: That's the same...so no.
---
Br: So practicing as gay...that's not allowed.
P: It isn't? What do you mean with practicing?
Br: Well....to penetrate someone.....to say it very rude.
P: That's not allowed?
Br: No. There are a number of people who have been born with that deviation. But it doesn't mean that you have to practice it.
---
Br1 = Head of security
Br2 = Some heavy
Br1: I'd rather have you stop filming now...And we stop.
P: Why?!
Br2: [in the background] We'd like to keep the peace.
P: We're disturbing the peacel?
Br2: Yes. [..] Hereby your silent [implied] invitiation has been withdrawn, so from this moment you are uninvited.[...] Here is your coat. [...] Thank you for your interest in us.

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Demon possesion, bunch of crap or?

by raven in

i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.

anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?

i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?

Anders Andersen

Yeah I used to believe that nonsense too. But really, there ain't such beings.

Any effort to prove demons exist under (at least somewhat) controlled circumstances were unsuccessful. So we're left with hearsay, sensational fables, scared people who don't think straight, institutional fearmongering, etc.

Apart from that: if Biblical demons do exist, and our protection is gone when we leave Jehovah or JW.org: please show me from the Bible examples of demon-induced dreams, demon-possessed objects, demons creating shadows, etc. No such thing in there. You're either possessed or not. You're either talking to one or not. That's it.

Don't be scared. There is no such a thing.

@Happydad, look up lucid dreaming. Much fun :-)

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Canada Legislature passes new bill for the protection of Transgenders. Will this mean the end of shunning policy

by Quarterback in

since shunning is looked upon as a form of hatred crime.

i wonder if these changes may alter the shunning practices in the wt world

Anders Andersen

No. (Haven't read the article)

If really needed they'll change the wording on shunning policy to say it's a matter of conscience to avoid bad association. And then they'll counsel everybody until their conscience is aligned with the corporate shunning policy.

Just like in Bulgaria they promised the government that dubs would have freedom of choice in all medical procedures, including blood transfusions, without DFing or judicial action. And since then the policy is that everybody who accepts blood DAed themselves, unless 2 elders (not a JW!) deem the offender repentant.

They will find a way to make sure they continue to spread ignorance, hate, prejudice and bigotry without their official policies saying as much black on white

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Mexico ends use of House-to-House Record & Please Follow Up

by wifibandit in

in a letter to all congregations dated april 27, 2016 the central american branch (mexico) has ended the use of s-8-s and s-43-s.

Anders Andersen

Yeah those forms were abandoned sometime in 2000's in the Netherlands as well. Privacy protection laws indeed.

Not that those laws seem to apply to data on active dubs, DA and DF; your very personal records will be stored for years both local and at the branch.